Jim Boardman is joined by Jan Gorski-Mescir for a chat that sometimes gets onto football. They talk about what sets Liverpool apart from the rest of England, at least in their view, and they don’t mean Covid restrictions, and how the current Reds boss compares to the man who turned the club around so much in the sixties, Bill Shankly. Also, did the Premier League clubs get right with the PPV plan - or could it have been even worse?